Living with CIDP: David Watts' Struggle with Autoimmune Disease and Treatment
In short
David Watts picks up his own story from his 2023 diagnosis of CIDP (chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy): five days of polygam in hospital, six-weekly infusions, skin peeling off his hands, constant neuropathic pain and brain fog, and repeat tests in December showing almost no improvement. He also explains why he now wants people with autoimmune disease to talk openly about it.
What was David diagnosed with, and what did the doctors tell him to expect?
He was diagnosed around April or May 2023 with CIDP, chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy, along with idiopathic necrosis in his left hip, meaning no blood supply there. The neurologist was upfront that there is no cure; the best hope is slowing the disease down or achieving remission, which he says he is a fan of.
What did the polygam treatment actually involve?
He went into hospital for five days of polygam while being monitored, with an initial treatment phase of six months and an infusion every six weeks after that. Lying in a hospital bed with ADD did not go well, so he found a sneaky exit to sit outside for a cigarette, which he called his office.
What did he learn from being in hospital?
That nothing is as bad as it seems and there are always people who have it worse. He suggests spending one night in an oncology ward with people in end-stage cancer for a newfound gratitude. On CIDP he says he is better than most, worse than some, and the disease does not keep score.
What side effects did the treatment cause?
Nausea and headaches he compares to tick bite fever, as though someone is peeling the top of his skull off. Then stranger things: dry, itchy skin inside his ears and tiny bubbles on his hands that broke open, with at least two layers of skin coming off. The neurologist had never seen it before.
What does neuropathic pain actually feel like?
His feet and legs send pain signals 24/7 even though he has lost feeling in his feet and cannot tell hot from cold. It ranges from mild pins and needles to electric shocks that make his legs jump, skin feeling four sizes too small, walking on broken glass or hot lava, and pliers squeezing his feet.
How does the illness affect his ability to work and make plans?
Fatigue and brain fog mean some days he can hardly get out of bed and showering feels like too much. He can sit at the computer with no idea what he wants to say, so he records when he feels able. He cannot promise to deliver something on a Thursday, because Thursday may find him man down.
What medication is he taking for the pain?
Three different medications, all at fairly large doses, including Lyrica plus two others he is unsure how to pronounce. People he has spoken to reckon that much pain medication should put him flat on his back. He says it affects his desire to do things, so it is a trade-off to keep pain manageable.
Did the treatment work?
No. He kept reporting feeling worse until December, when repeat nerve tests showed no improvement in his feet and legs and only minimal improvement in his arms and fingers. After the last scheduled polygam in December there was no bounce back at all, and Christmas did not go as he hoped.
Why is he talking about this publicly?
Because a diagnosis like this is treated almost like a dirty little secret and people do not know how to talk about it. Through the podcast, videos and a possible Facebook group, he wants a place where sufferers, family and friends can bring it into the light, and he warns nobody to judge.
In their words
She said to me, there is no cure. The best we can hope for is to slow it down or to get you to go into remission.
If you ever, ever are sitting around thinking how much your life sucks and how bad it is, spend one night in an oncology ward with people who are in end stage cancer, whatever the case may be, just one night.
So I promptly took a photo of my hand, sent them back to her and said, now you have.
Don't ever judge somebody that has got neuropathic pain or any autoimmune disease in fact, 'cause you've got no idea the kind of battle that they're fighting.
You get diagnosed with this and it's almost like a dirty little secret. And you can't really talk to other people. You don't know how to address this.
Key takeaways
- CIDP has no cure; the realistic goals are slowing progression or achieving remission.
- Polygam infusions brought their own problems, including headaches, nausea and layers of skin peeling from his hands.
- Neuropathic pain can run 24/7 in limbs that have simultaneously lost normal sensation.
- Invisible illness is harder to explain because there is no cast, no scars and no stitches for others to see.
- Repeat nerve testing in December showed almost no improvement, leaving him worse rather than better at the end of the treatment phase.
- He wants autoimmune disease brought out of secrecy and into open conversation among sufferers and their families.
Show notes
Welcome to another episode of "Watts Involved." In this edition, host David Watts continues to share his journey with CIDP (chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy) and its impact on his life. From hospital treatments to the development of strange side effects, David takes us through the challenges he has faced, including neuropathic pain and the struggle to manage daily activities. Join us as we dive into a candid and raw discussion about living with autoimmune diseases and the importance of shedding light on these often misunderstood conditions. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation, and stay tuned for the latest updates on David's journey. Thank you for listening, and remember to take care of yourselves.
Frequently asked questions
Why does he call it idiopathic necrosis of the hip?
Because there is no blood supply to his left hip. He jokes that they call it idiopathic because they do not know what causes it, so they are idiots, adding that this is only his opinion.
What is CRAFT disease?
His own joking name for the memory problems that come with the illness, standing for "can't remember a flipping thing", something he says pregnant women normally get. He also tried calling the illness mad car disease, but only he found it funny.
What worries him about the future of his treatment?
The cost. He says one thing he knows is how hellishly expensive treatment is, and that this is something he worries about too, promising to return to it in a later episode.
How can listeners support or contact him?
Through his website, wattsinvolved.com, where they can leave a review, a message or a voice note, or use the "buy me a coffee" button to help with the financial side. He also asks YouTube viewers to like and subscribe.
Transcript
Well, what can I say? Good morning, hello, it's good afternoon, good evening, depends entirely on whether you're watching and listening and at what time and where. So welcome to another edition of What's Involved. As I said, this is where this what's gets involved with his own life. So I've been sharing my story with you and it's not, my story hasn't ended yet,
but we might be approaching the end of the beginning. So the last time that I chatted to you, I brought you up to date, which basically brings us up to, I think, April, May, last year, that being 2023, I'd just been diagnosed with something called CIDP, chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy. It is a mouthful, that's probably why they call it CIDP. Also told that I have, what do they call it? Idiopathic necrosis in my left hip. So in other words, no blood supply there. I think they call it idiopathic because they don't know what causes it so they're idiots. Anyway, just my opinion. So that's where I left off. So the treatment at that stage, I was told that I would need to have something called polygam and to start off with, I'd have to go into hospital for a period of five days when they would pump me full of polygam and monitor me the whole time and see how everything went. And look, the neurologist was upfront with me, okay? She said to me, there is no cure. The best we can hope for is to slow it down or to get you to go into remission. Obviously, I'm a fan of remission at this stage.
So what happened is I duly went into hospital, did five days of polygam. Again, can you imagine somebody with ADD having to lie in a hospital bed? No, didn't do so well. I quickly found a sort of sneaky exit where I could get out of the ward, lugging my drip stand along with me and go and sit outside and have a cigarette, have a smoke. Yes, I know, I know. All the naysayers, oh, smoking kills. Well, at this stage, smoking is gonna have to take a number and get in line, okay? And I used to call that my office. So I told everybody in the ward that that's my office. If they needed me, I'd be in my office. This is where one of my first great learnings came in as well, though. Because if you ever, ever are sitting around thinking how much your life sucks and how bad it is, spend one night in an oncology ward with people who are in end stage cancer, whatever the case may be, just one night. And I promise you, you will have an absolute newfound gratitude for where you are. And that's something that I'm gonna be discussing as we go along. - Your Nedbank online banking session will time out in two minutes, 50 seconds. - Oh, I don't know if that came through, but just told me that my online banking, well, let's see, let's see what happens.
(laughing) Oh, it's sod's law. Just when you think nothing will go wrong, it does go wrong. It's a bit like laugh. Anyway, so where was I? Oh, yes. I was saying to you that that's one of the learnings, okay? Is this whole idea of nothing is as bad as you think it is. And there's always people that have it way worse than you. So, you know, and the way I look at it, in terms of what I've learned with the CIDP so far,
I'm better than most, worse than some. It doesn't seem to keep score okay. You know, and it doesn't matter where you come from or who you are. You know, I tried having a chat with it and saying to them I was a very important person and just didn't work. Anyway, so did the five days and came out of that and I was told that the initial treatment phase would be six months. And I came out of that and suddenly I started to experience some really weird things. Like some of the side effects, okay? The general ones is you can feel nauseous and you can get headaches. I've got that. I get that when I go in. And the best way to describe the headache is if you've ever had tick bite fever, it's that kind of a headache, okay? It feels like somebody's trying to peel the top of your skull off. But then other weird stuff started to happen. And the weird stuff that started to happen was inside my ears, all the skin got dried and itchy and everything. And then my hands got all these tiny little bubbles on them. And those bubbles then sort of, I don't know, concept popped really, but those bubbles, yeah, broke open or whatever. And I literally started with the skin coming off, but not like when you get sunburned.
Okay, this was like two layers at least. We'll get to this, but if you can see, can you? I don't know.
Oh, there you go. Maybe you can see that. So that's where it is. And this is about as good as it gets now. So I phoned the neurologist or a male do. We don't do phone calls with her. And she said to me, "That's very interesting. "I've never seen that before." So I promptly took a photo of my hand, sent them back to her and said, "Now you have."
And then every six weeks from that first five days, every six weeks, I was supposed to go for a polygame treatment, which I duly did. But in that time, my hand kept getting worse and worse and worse, and I said to her, "This is not good." Incredible fatigue. I don't know, there's days when I can hardly drag my ass out of bed. Some days I don't even get it right. Some days the concept of showering is just too much for me. The pain was still there. And I need to discuss my experience of neuropathic pain. Because these nerves are short-circuiting or whatever, the best that I can come up with is nerve short-circuiting. But my feet and legs send me pain signals, 24/7. Although because of this disease now, I've lost all sort of feeling in my feet. So if you say to me, if you pressure off it and say, "Is this hot or cold?" I have no idea. However, the nerves are continually sending these pain signals to my brain. So it can be anything from like mild pins and needles to electric shocks that literally cause my legs to jump, to the feeling that my skin is like four sizes too small for me, to the fact that if I walk, it feels like I'm walking on chunks of broken glass or hot lava. What else? Oh, a very interesting one is sometimes it feels like somebody's grabbing my feet with a pair of pliers and squeezing.
And this is the thing. And I was actually chatting to somebody yesterday and shout out to an incredible artist, Diane. If you'd like to check her out, I suggest you do. She's also got now multiple of these autoimmune diseases and it's affecting her vision, et cetera, et cetera. But we were chatting and I said to her, "The worst thing is people look at you. I mean, you can see me now." And you'll go, "Well, you look okay. Doesn't look like anything's wrong with you." And that's the worst part, I think, because you don't, it's not like you're wearing a big plaster cast and you've got scars and stitches and all sorts of things like that, because for the most part, you haven't. So what happened with me is after, going back now, after going through the first five days, I felt terrible for about two days, three days afterwards. And then I start to feel better and better, get to a sort of plateau, and then I start to feel worse and worse. And then we do the polygame again. However, and this was the thing I spoke to the neurologist, new neurologist about is I was feeling worse and worse. So the pain was getting worse. The brain fog, I can sit in front of this computer and not have an idea of what I want to say, which is why I'm recording this now.
It's a Saturday morning, because I'm feeling okay right now. But I can't ever make any commitment to say, "Yeah, I'll make a plan. I'll do it for you on Thursday." 'Cause Thursday might come and I am man down. So what's happened is she started to give me medication to deal with the pain. I am now on currently three different kinds of medication.
I'm on something called tripline or tripline. I don't know how you pronounce it. What else am I on? Lyrica. And somvolta, that's the three of them. And all three of them are fairly large doses. In fact, people that I've spoken to, you reckon that that much pain medication should put me flat on my back. But obviously I didn't get that memo. But that's a lot, okay? And I know it affects me. I know it affects my sort of desire to do things. So it's a trade-off now. So I've gotten to the stage where I've kind of gotten the pain stuff down to where I can function a little bit and the pain is manageable. But as I get to the end of it, it's not any better. So I brought up until December last year, I kept saying to these guys, I'm feeling worse and worse and I'm not getting any better. So they redid the tests and put me on the bed again with the, what is it? It's not shock therapy, I always say it is. But that nerve test thing that they do, the other thing that you get with this is, I've told you, brain fog, quandromember stuff. I call it CRAFT disease. Normally pregnant women get it. Stands for quandromember thing. So CRAFT disease is what I have now as well. I did start to call this illness mad car disease, but nobody saw the funny side of it except me.
So I'm not gonna do that anymore. So did all the tests again and there was like minimal improvements in nothing in my feet and legs, no improvement there and minimal in my arms and fingers. So I went for my technically the last poly game.
Treatment that I was supposed to get the last of those in December, this past December. And I went to bed earlier because I thought, let's at least try and have a good Christmas.
Needless to say, that didn't happen. Things just got worse and worse and worse. There was no bounce back. I didn't feel better. I just felt awful all the time and pain 24/7. You gotta remember anybody that's suffering with neuropathic pain, it is quite possible that they have pain 24/7. And unless you've experienced it, don't ever judge. Let me tell you, don't ever judge somebody that has got neuropathic pain or any autoimmune disease in fact, 'cause you've got no idea the kind of battle that they're fighting. And this is the hope with me changing my focus and what I wanna do now is that I can get people to start talking about this. There are so many people, I was one of them. You get diagnosed with this and it's almost like a dirty little secret. And you can't really talk to other people. You don't know how to address this. So that's what this is about, okay? The podcast, the videos. I'm thinking of doing a Facebook group. I'm thinking of that. Don't know how well that works, but I'm thinking of that old person here. So I battle with these things. But I wanna create a place where we can talk about this and with people that are suffering. And I do mean suffering, okay? With this disease or these autoimmune diseases and family and friends, that we can come together, bring it out into the light and talk about it.
Because I know, one thing I know is how hellishly expensive treatment is. And that's something that I worry about as well. But we'll get onto that. So for now, if you have made it this far, thank you. Thank you, I really appreciate it. Don't forget, you can go and leave a review on my website, which is www.watts. That's W-A-T-T-S, wattsinvolved.com. You can leave me a message there. You can leave me a voice note. And if you're feeling particularly generous, there's a little button on the left-hand side that says, "Buy me a coffee." Hopefully it'll go some way to alleviating some of the sort of financial implications of doing something like this. So if you find it of value, I'd really appreciate it. If you could pop out there, buy me a coffee. Check out the website. If you're watching this on YouTube, please like and subscribe. That brings us up to almost, as I said, the end of the beginning. Next episode, I'll chat about the latest developments, and then we'll sort of take it from there. But to each and every one of you, be kind, take care, look after yourselves, and thank you for listening or for watching.
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